When they discussed support required from their executive director and board actions related to effective governance, board chair interviewees put them into the context of how they could help or hinder the executive director and operations. For example, the questions for discussion at the end of this book include, “Does either party ever feel that the board is getting too involved in operations (micromanaging).” There is no equivalent question about executive directors getting too involved in board governance, because it was not raised as a concern during the interviews while almost all interviewees, including board chairs, commented on the need.